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Vagonuth: /* Monks at Lord Tier */

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Monks at Lord Tier

Vagonuth: Expanded Lord gameplay

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Expanded Lord gameplay

Vagonuth at 19:39, 13 November 2024

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Vagonuth: /* Monks at Lord Tier */

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Monks at Lord Tier

3nki at 15:38, 7 October 2020

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3nki: /* Monks at Lord Tier */

2014-10-01T19:08:59Z

Monks at Lord Tier

3nki: /* Monks at Lord Tier */

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Monks at Lord Tier

3nki: /* Fighting */

2012-11-21T17:06:07Z

Fighting

3nki: /* Fighting */

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Fighting

3nki: /* Monks in General */ moved to hero section

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Monks in General: moved to hero section

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 * [[Create Shrine]] - allows you to make a safe room into an [[Infirmary]] for times you're running without a priest
 * [[Countercrush]] - delivers a powerful counterattack after a successful crane block
 When running at lord, make sure you add Blind Devotion and Consummation to your spell up routine. You can also add one of [[Stone Fist]] or [[Dagger Hand]] (use Stone Fist to keep Medicine available). Have a counter set up (I often find "counter push stay" a good option for tanking. I like to prioritize Bear Stance for better AC and using Emu Stance for kicks when its done.

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 == Monks at Lord Tier ==
-Monks are very useful at lord. Their counterpush skill is very useful since lord fights are much longer than hero and a bashed mob gets hit significantly more. They also do an appreciable amount of damage (nothing close to a caster though) with counterkick and emu stance. Also, with good tank gear, monks rarely get hit by normal lord mobs.
+Monks are very useful at lord and make one of the best tank classes. Their counterpush skill is very useful since lord fights are much longer than hero and a bashed mob gets hit significantly more. They also do an appreciable amount of damage (nothing close to a caster though) with counterkick and emu stance. Also, with good tank gear, monks rarely get hit by normal lord mobs. Some notable lord abilities:
-* [[Blind Devotion]] - the ability to be more successful with your open-handed defense for a duration.
+* [[Blind Devotion]] - the ability to be more successful with your open-handed defense for a duration
 * [[Flow Like Water]] - InnerQi ability that increases dodge and improves [[Crane Style]]
-In late September of 2014 [[Qi]] was introduced for Monks and [[:Category: Shadowfists|Shadowfists]]. This adds many new skills and abilities.
+When running at lord, make sure you add Blind Devotion and Consummation to your spell up routine. You can also add one of [[Stone Fist]] or [[Dagger Hand]] (use Stone Fist to keep Medicine available). Have a counter set up (I often find "counter push stay" a good option for tanking. I like to prioritize Bear Stance for better AC and using Emu Stance for kicks when its done.
 == Monk Remort Options ==

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 * [[Blind Devotion]] - the ability to be more successful with your open-handed defense for a duration.
+* [[Flow Like Water]] - InnerQi ability that increases dodge and improves [[Crane Style]]
 In late September of 2014 [[Qi]] was introduced for Monks and [[:Category: Shadowfists|Shadowfists]]. This adds many new skills and abilities.

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	Monks are very useful at lord. Their counterpush skill is very useful since lord fights are much longer than hero and a bashed mob gets hit significantly more. They also do an appreciable amount of damage (nothing close to a caster though) with counterkick and emu stance. Also, with good tank gear, monks rarely get hit by normal lord mobs.		Monks are very useful at lord. Their counterpush skill is very useful since lord fights are much longer than hero and a bashed mob gets hit significantly more. They also do an appreciable amount of damage (nothing close to a caster though) with counterkick and emu stance. Also, with good tank gear, monks rarely get hit by normal lord mobs.
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		+	* [[Blind Devotion]] - the ability to be more successful with your open-handed defense for a duration.

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−	''There is a group of monks who originally worshipped the [[:Category: Gods And Goddesses \|god]], [[Gorn \|Gorn]]. [[Gorn \|Gorn]]'s prescripts prohibited the drawing of blood of thy fellow creatures, it did not prohibit the use of body to bring people into the light which is the Almighty Blessed [[Gorn \|Gorn]]. These monks developed a series of skills based upon a bare-handed fighting style. Through speed and skill these fierce and faithful followers fight with purity of body and soul for the glory of [[Gorn \|Gorn]]. Since that time, there have been factions which have split off and started worshipping their own [[:Category: Gods And Goddesses \|gods]]. They have, however, maintained the practices that have existed for the past 2000 years.''	+	''There is a group of monks who originally worshipped the [[:Category: Gods And Goddesses \|god]], [[Gorn \|Gorn]]. [[Gorn \|Gorn]]'s prescripts prohibited the drawing of blood of thy fellow creatures, it did not prohibit the use of body to bring people into the light which is the Almighty Blessed [[Gorn \|Gorn]].''
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		+	''These monks developed a series of skills based upon a bare-handed fighting style. Through speed and skill these fierce and faithful followers fight with purity of body and soul for the glory of [[Gorn \|Gorn]].''
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		+	''Since that time, there have been factions which have split off and started worshipping their own [[:Category: Gods And Goddesses \|gods]]. They have, however, maintained the practices that have existed for the past 2000 years.''

	'''Abbreviation:''' Mon.		'''Abbreviation:''' Mon.

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−	In late September of 2014 [[Qi]] was introduced for Monks and [[:Category: Shadowfists\|Shadowfists]]. This adds many new skills and abilities~~. Basically it gives monks more tanking ability at the expense of hitting, and shadowfists more hitting ability at the expense of tanking~~.	+	In late September of 2014 [[Qi]] was introduced for Monks and [[:Category: Shadowfists\|Shadowfists]]. This adds many new skills and abilities.

	== Monk Remort Options ==		== Monk Remort Options ==

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	Monks are very useful at lord. Their counterpush skill is very useful since lord fights are much longer than hero and a bashed mob gets hit significantly more. They also do an appreciable amount of damage (nothing close to a caster though) with counterkick and emu stance. Also, with good tank gear, monks rarely get hit by normal lord mobs.		Monks are very useful at lord. Their counterpush skill is very useful since lord fights are much longer than hero and a bashed mob gets hit significantly more. They also do an appreciable amount of damage (nothing close to a caster though) with counterkick and emu stance. Also, with good tank gear, monks rarely get hit by normal lord mobs.
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		+	In late September of 2014 [[Qi]] was introduced for Monks and [[:Category: Shadowfists\|Shadowfists]]. This adds many new skills and abilities. Basically it gives monks more tanking ability at the expense of hitting, and shadowfists more hitting ability at the expense of tanking.

	== Monk Remort Options ==		== Monk Remort Options ==

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 '''Soloing:'''
-Soloing is possible, especially with a gorn worship. When soloing spelled, go for as much AC gear as you need... that's general advice, but it is mostly dependent on how much hp you have. Note that some hit gear has  armor (-ac) bonuses as well. Unspelled soloing is a lot harder, but not impossible. You'll need a mix of ac and hit roll gear for that (without losing too much ac), and lots of patience.
+Soloing is possible, especially with a gorn worship. When soloing spelled, go for as much AC gear as you need... that's general advice, but it is mostly dependent on how much hp you have. Note that some hit gear has  armor (-ac) bonuses, and conversely some AC gear has hr/dr bonuses. Unspelled soloing is a lot harder, but not impossible. You'll need a mix of ac and hit roll gear for that (without losing too much ac), and lots of patience.
 '''Tanking:'''

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 '''Soloing:'''
-Soloing is possible, especially with a gorn worship. When soloing spelled, go for as much AC gear as you need... that's general advice, but it is mostly dependent on how much hp you have. Unspelled soloing is a lot harder, but not impossible. You'll need a mix of ac and hit roll gear for that (without losing too much ac), and lots of patience.
+Soloing is possible, especially with a gorn worship. When soloing spelled, go for as much AC gear as you need... that's general advice, but it is mostly dependent on how much hp you have. Note that some hit gear has  armor (-ac) bonuses as well. Unspelled soloing is a lot harder, but not impossible. You'll need a mix of ac and hit roll gear for that (without losing too much ac), and lots of patience.
 '''Tanking:'''
-Monks are great tanks. Remember to keep your hands free (no shields, no swords) for using your monk abilities. Your ac is going to be less than you're use to, but you should be fine with around -650 (-1200 with spells). Monks are a versatile tank, they have good enough hp, plenty of mana, and inclass rescue and trip. Like always, try to trip if you are just fighting one mob so you don't get the rescue penalty to ac. If you don't have a basher in the group and you want to keep a mob in place, try [[Tiger Stance]]; it lands a hit after every toss or trip, so you'll always be the first person to hit the mob while on the ground, keeping your groupies safe. [[Bear Stance]] is also very useful; it removes the hit to ac you get from rescuing.
+Monks are great tanks. Remember to keep your hands free (no shields, no swords) for using your monk abilities. Your ac is going to be less than you're use to, but you should be fine with around -650 (-1200 with spells). Monks are a versatile tank, they have good enough hp, plenty of mana, and inclass rescue and trip. Like always, try to trip if you are just fighting one mob so you don't get the rescue penalty to ac. If you don't have a basher in the group and you want to keep a mob in place, try [[Tiger Stance]]; it lands a hit after every toss or trip, so you'll always be the first person to hit the mob while on the ground, keeping your groupies safe. [[Bear Stance]] is also very useful; it removes the hit to ac you get from rescuing. Since monks can still do some damage in tank gear it's worth trying to get pieces that also have some +hr/dr. Pieces such as: Mega's Spark, Orkenfyr signet ring,  Smoldering Crown of Dying Fire, Aura of Elemental Strength, all have the same armor class bonus as the best piece for that slot in a tank set but also offer some +hr/dr.
 '''Hitting:'''
-Right now, people are of the opinion that monks shouldn't be hitting. Their hitting depends on hit roll, and a decent monk can hit about as hard when he's hitting as when he's tanking. [[Emu Stance]] will probably be a monk's best friend while hitting, as it raises maximum kick damage by about one damage verb, however it doesn't increase minimum damage so you will still occasionally miss or hit poorly.
+Right now, people are of the opinion that monks shouldn't be hitting. Their hitting depends on hit roll as well as damage roll, so check the hit gear list and favor items with +hr as well as +dr. [[Emu Stance]] will probably be a monk's best friend while hitting, as it raises maximum kick damage by about one damage verb, however it doesn't increase minimum damage so you will still occasionally miss or hit poorly.
 == Monks at Lord Tier ==

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 Monks are naturally suited to [[Tanks|tank]] with high dexterity and many counterattack skills which increase their effectiveness as tanks. They also get a decent amount of mana which can be useful in a pinch.
-While monks (and [[:Category:Shadowfists|shadowfists]]) are better tanks than hitters they can do hitting with the right gear, particularly with a gorn worship. Hit roll (hr) is important as well as damage roll (dr) on gear since you want as many of the monks multiple open hand attacks to hit as possible.  For hero gear I'd pick mostly from the hit gear list and favor items with +hr as well as +dr. If soloing, the best items are those which have +hr, +dr, and armor (-ac).
+While monks (and [[:Category:Shadowfists|shadowfists]]) are better tanks than hitters they can do hitting with the right gear, particularly with a gorn worship. Hit roll (hr) is important as well as damage roll (dr) on gear since you want as many of the monks multiple open hand attacks to hit as possible.
 == Monk Creation ==